I live in the UK ,a letter was read as local announcements on Thursday about the relocation of London Bethel and the need to donate (yes they are blatantly asking the flock )..more money .Considering the fact the London Bethel is located in one of the most expensive areas of London ,the sale of of these buildings will bring in hundrends of millions of pounds in revenue.There is no need asking for more money .As one poster posted here 11 years ago on the same project that nows seems to be going ahead the conservative estimates are that they will get approx £193.5m for the site (inc Bittacy Hill) and the new Greenfield site (whichever) wil cost less that £35m. Whip up the building committes and up it goes FOC (Materials are estimated @ £9.23m).That was an estimate 11 years ago..So my question is did you had this letter read in your local announcements recently? I see a pattern emerging also the sale and relocation of bethel houses build in prime land that are worth alot of money to less expensive areas and the generation of million of pounds in income .So not only makinf money off local refurfrfbrisment projects but milking it off Bethel homes sale. Your thoughts...
raymond frantz
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Asking for money...AGAIN
by raymond frantz ini live in the uk ,a letter was read as local announcements on thursday about the relocation of london bethel and the need to donate (yes they are blatantly asking the flock )..more money .considering the fact the london bethel is located in one of the most expensive areas of london ,the sale of of these buildings will bring in hundrends of millions of pounds in revenue.there is no need asking for more money .as one poster posted here 11 years ago on the same project that nows seems to be going ahead the conservative estimates are that they will get approx 193.5m for the site (inc bittacy hill) and the new greenfield site (whichever) wil cost less that 35m.
whip up the building committes and up it goes foc (materials are estimated @ 9.23m).that was an estimate 11 years ago..so my question is did you had this letter read in your local announcements recently?
i see a pattern emerging also the sale and relocation of bethel houses build in prime land that are worth alot of money to less expensive areas and the generation of million of pounds in income .so not only makinf money off local refurfrfbrisment projects but milking it off bethel homes sale.
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My mother continues with these creepy letters
by sosoconfused inas i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.
however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.
evening <name removed>,.
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raymond frantz
If it is any consolation to you ,the whole the system operates in similar ways not just Jehovah's Witnesses .Muslims kill people that try to leave their church.Propaganda ,indoctrination and pressure to conform is in all levels of society .Religion,Goverment,Media. In the end I wouldn't let a religion destroy my relatioship with my mother .She has been indoctrinated for decades it will take alot of love and help to wake up .Personally I wouldn't talk religion around her if she is that badly indoctrinated
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My mother continues with these creepy letters
by sosoconfused inas i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.
however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.
evening <name removed>,.
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raymond frantz
I really do feel for you brother I'm still going through the same process with my close family that refuses to see it fot what it is , a golden calf
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My mother continues with these creepy letters
by sosoconfused inas i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.
however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.
evening <name removed>,.
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raymond frantz
SSC's MOM: Think of the cost, the time, all the resources Jehovah has used so that "millions now living would never die".
To get past the indoctrination ,you need to brake it in very small parts and ask her calmly and slowly small questions:
Mum who made this statement ?
What year did he make this statement ?
How many years have past ever since ?
Have most of these people died?
If this statement is wrong is Jehovah wrong or J.F.Rutherford wrong?
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My mother continues with these creepy letters
by sosoconfused inas i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.
however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.
evening <name removed>,.
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raymond frantz
Go easy on her .It takes time .Ask her to help undrstand why your thinking is wrong and in the process you can get her to see your point.We were all like this at one point .
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The antidote to the myth that JWs are declining
by slimboyfat inone of the most persistent myths on this website is that jws are already in decline, the rot has set in, and the descent of the watchtower is inevitable from here on in.
unfortunately the facts do not bear this out.
jws are still increasing even in most developing countries, and they are still growing worldwide at a faster rate than the general population.
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raymond frantz
There's definetely more Witnesses today than 10 years ago and that will be the trend for some years to come BUT there are undeniable signs that things are changing fast :
- Their economic model is unsustainable .Donations from Western Countries has dried up not only due to the recent Recession but the disatisfaction amongst many Witnesses .
- The fire in the belly has gone .With 1914 almost 100 years away ,there is no date to hung onto anymore .Yes they can "danced around it" as much as they like but no one is stupid ,people are just not motivated as much as they used to
- Elders outnumber ministerials servants in many congragations now ,a sign that most of the young ones have access to internet and more information and although they stay in the truth for mum and dad they are not willing to donate their life away for a lost cause.
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My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)
by sosoconfused inthe only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.
i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.
my wife is backing me and i have my children.
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raymond frantz
Welcome to the Matrix! It is all around you it exists in the media,politics and "cults" dressed as religions. The mind control that Watchtower has done to your mum's mind is something to marvel. It will take alot of time and love to undo the damage .Make sure you keep your family together as things will get "hairy" ,especially if the elders find out .Prepare your family for the "love" phone calls from other members of the congragation which have only one purpose to ultimetely turn your family against you ,whether they realise it or not .The Watchtower has only one thing in mind for "apostates" ,they want you out .The Shepherding the flock book ,the judicial comittees are designed to damage your credibility and destroy your family .The men behind the Watchtower are truly evil and Jesus has designed a special place for them called HELL ,that's all they deserve.Christian love ,pm me if you need any help or advice,Ray
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Revelation chapter 19
by Crazyguy inchapter 19 of revelation states more then once that the great crowd, great multitude are in heaven.
so what lame excuse does the wt use to explain away this obvious contradiction of what they teach?.
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It's being covered extensivly many times before ,just type in the SEARCH box :Great crowd
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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APOLOGY : Hi guys ,I would like to apologise for the figures .When I did the research yesterday I used these numbers from the 2011 cd .When I checked again today on the 2012 cd I got different figures.Again may apologies I will get to the bottom of it and be more careful next time when I post things here .It was not done with the intention to misinform .Many thanks for pointing out the mistake
On a second note ,we all now how much the WT loves Jesus
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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(1John2:22,23)Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son. 23 Everyone that denies the Son does not have the Father either. He that confesses the Son has the Father also.
(2 John 9-11) "Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
You can't have the Father without the Son .In fact it is so serious to promote a religion based solely upon the Father completely ignoring the SOn that Apostle John warned never to receive such a man nor say a greeting to him .The REAL APOSTATES of the Watchtower , the "governing body " promotes such a religion .Numbers don't lie.A search on the Watchtowers from 1950-2011 shows that the Watchtower is working hard to remove Jesus' name from the hearts and minds of average Jehovah's Witnesses .They are truly turning Jehovah's Witnesses in to a cult
The following two two diagrams are based on Average Yearly Apperance of the Name Jesus & Jehovah from 1950-2011 in the Watchtower
Notice the name Jehovah fluctuates 2250-3050 for the past 62 years BUT the name Jesus is disappearing STEADILY from over 1500 a year in the early 50's to a SHOCKING 444 mentions in 2011 !!! They have well and truly replaced Jesus substituting him in the position of power with themselves .ANTI-CHRIST!!!